Christmas Card 2014

This year's Christmas card is 3D...since everybody's remaking movies in 3D and almost every animated movie is being released in 2&3D, I figured I'd jump on the bandwagon with a 3D card. Hope you enjoy this how-to.

Paper Supplies
    white paper for base (cut to 8-1/4" x 5-7/8")
    white paper strips (cut to 4-1/8" x 1")
    red strips (cut to 4-1/8" x 1-1/2")
    red stripe (cut to 4-1/8" x 5-7/8") - I used Simple Stories Sn@p! Red Dot/Stripe
    Transparency film (cut to 4-1/2" x 3-3/4")
Stamps
    Merry Christmas sentiment of choice (I used the one from Hero Arts Cozy Moments set)
    Inkadinkado Snowman
Ink
    Staz On Black
Tools
    Adhesive
    Pop-Dots
    Glitter Glue
    Colored Pencils (Red & Blue)
    Oval Cutter
    Paper Cutter
    Paper Scorer
    Bone folder
    Stamp-a-ma-jig stamp positioner

Step 1
Stamp your "Christmas" sentiment on the 4-1/8" x 1" white strip. Then adhere to 4-1/8" x 1-1/2" red strip.

For this step, you will need your Black Staz On Ink, the
 4-1/8"x1" white strip, and your Christmas sentiment.

Step 2
Using your oval cutter, cut an oval out of the 4-1/8" x 5-7/8" red strip paper. I used the Creative Memories 3" x 3-7/8" oval with the red blade. Cut oval closer to the top, so you have some space on the bottom of the card.

Step 3
Score white card base. DO NOT FOLD yet.

Step 4
Align red striped paper on right side of card base so corners line up. Ink stamp, align stamp in center of oval and stamp your image.

Step 4: transparency film, black Staz On Ink, snowman stamp,
stamp positioner, white card base, and red striped paper with oval cut out.

Step 5

Stamp the snowman on a piece of transparency (this is to use for positioning only). This one will be easier to show the steps in pictures, so under each picture is what you need to do.

Align your transparency film over the
snowman image on the white card base.

Align positioner image over top of card base and clean transparency
film. Align positioner to top left edge of positioning image.

Once you've aligned the stamp positioner in place,
remove positioning image.

Ink stamp, stamp image, aligning corner of stamp to stamp
positioner. This helps ensure your two images will line up.

You should have your snowman stamped on the
transparency film and the main card base.

Step 6
Color parts of the scarf and hat red (I colored in every other stripe in the scarf and hat). Color the shadowy areas blue.

Step 6: colored pencils and the main card base.

 

Step 7

Adhere the transparency film to the red striped paper by aligning the transparency film over the card base image. Apply adhesive to the edges of the transparency film, attach red striped paper on top of transparency film. Make sure the corners of your card base and the corners of the red striped paper line up.

Step 7: adhesive, the card base, the snowman on transparency
film and the red striped paper with the oval cut out.

Step 8

Step 8: Adhesive, pop dots, Christmas sentiment, red striped paper
with snowman on transparency film, and the card base.

Adhere your Christmas sentiment to the front of the striped paper, covering part of the bottom of the oval. Flip over, attach your pop dots to the backside of the red striped paper. Flip right side up, align corners of the red striped paper with the card base and attach.

Step 9

Add glitter glue to transparency film over areas colored blue. Let dry

Step 9: glitter glue, completed card.

Stamp a sentiment inside and your signature stamp on the back and your 3D card is complete! Below are some additional pictures, hopefully you can see the 3D effect (try clicking on the image so it opens larger in a new window).

Hope you enjoyed yet another Christmas card tutorial. If you have any thoughts or suggestions on how to improve this how-to, please leave your comments. I'd love to hear your feedback.

Chasin' Tail Trail 5K

Ran my second 5K ever, and for the year. It was a great trail run. I had practiced what I thought would be the path, but they changed it up a little, which made it easier - didn't have to climb that really steep incline, however short it is. Overall, the race went well, I was in the first pack (it was a run/walk - they let the runners lead off, then the walkers). Some people brought dogs and strollers - I was wondering how the strollers were going to survive some of the path, but it seems they all made it fine.

Race results, based on RunKeeper, because the run was not timed: 51.07 (I forgot to stop it right away when I finished, so that's 3 seconds longer than my last run). :) Average pace/mile was 16:03 (last time my average pace/mile was 16:28, so I'm 25 seconds faster than I was 2 months ago). YAY!

At the end of the race everyone got a medal. I also got a really nice moisture-wicking T-shirt. The race supported Ready Set Ride Therapeutic Recreation Facility. They had a couple of therapy horses at the race, which you could have your picture taken with.

The only bad thing about the race, the end part of the path we were supposed to run was not marked and there weren't any volunteers at a couple of cross intersections to tell us which way to go. Needless to say, my husband told me that runners finished from 3 different directions. I followed the group in front of me, thinking it wasn't the right way, but it did end up being 3.19 miles...if I had gone the way I thought, it would've been more like 3.5 miles. Oh well! Overall it was a great race that I would definitely do again.

Post-run photo with my medal.

Next race? The Scarecrow Scramble on October 18 in honor of our friends DM & AM and I plan to run the entire time...no walking during the 5K (just to warm up - before the race starts - and cool down - when the race ends, and that's it). AND I just registered for it, so it is a definite go!

Couch to 5K: Week 7 and not counting....

So, now that I have a 5K under my belt...I still actually need to finish the Couch to 5K program. Also, since doing the 5K, I've not run. I've been doing a lot of walking, but no running. I did recently get a FitBit (pedometer + super powers) and I have yet to reach 10,000 steps in a day (granted today is only day 2 of having it), but, at least, today I did break 5,000 steps....now to add my running back in.

I rested for 2 days after my 5K, but, I guess, that wasn't long enough for my body. I ran for about 5 minutes and had to stop, my muscles were just too sore.

Tuesday, June 24: Ran for just over 5 min. My legs and muscles are really sore from my 5k this past weekend. I'll work my way back up again.
Average Pace: 17:08/mile
Mileage: 1.81 miles

Saturday, June 28: I didn't run outside, it was WAY too hot and I got up late. I ran in my basement. I started out on my trampoline, but my feet always feel funny when I run on that thing. So, I just ran circles in my basement as best I could. I ran for a full 25 minutes straight. I had intended to only run for 20 minutes, but when I got to the 20 minute point, I felt I could go on, so I did.
Average Pace: 18:14/mile
Mileage: 1.92 miles

Sunday, June 29: Great run! It's just as warm today as it was on 5K day. I understand why I walked as much as I did - this heat is brutal! 20 minute run today.
Average Pace: 18:53/mile
Mileage: 1.05 miles

So, let me explain that "I understand why I walked as much as I did" comment. That was the first hot day I ran, it has been such a cool year so far and I forgot how fatiguing the heat can be. And, when you start out stronger than you intend to, it catches up with you faster.

I didn't feel like running on Sunday morning, but I did. Because of this, and the motivation to run because of signing up for a race (the 5K for Orphans), I decided that I needed to sign up for more races. I figure one race every 2 months, that's enough time for me to keep training and to increase my mileage and pace...now to get back out there and run.

Mileage to Date (doesn't include all of the walking we did 4th of July weekend): 65.6 miles

Races I'm considering: 
August 9: Ready Set Ride: Chasin' Tail 5K Trail Run, Walk & Virtual Walk
October 18: Scarecrow Scramble (this is a definite! Doing this in honor of friend's who aren't in the country that have done this race in the past.)
December 6: Reindeer Run (I considered this one a couple of years ago, partially because I remember printing the postcards for this race at an old job)

Post-Race Day Re-Cap

Saturday, June 21, I ran my first race and first 5K ever. I estimated, based on my runs prior to race day, that I would be able to finish the race in about 52 minutes. I did a little better than that, 51:03. Fifty-two minutes, wasn't a planned goal, it was just a realistic estimate of my running a little under or around 17 minutes/mile.

My goal with this race, was to finish...finish strong and finish running (not walking or crawling). So, I achieved my goal.

It was a warm day and the path we ran wasn't very shady. There were 2 water stations along the path and lots of people along the way to cheer us on. It was great to have those encouragers along the way! Here is a map of the race route (its a PDF).

I started out running with my great-niece, this was her first 5K as well, and one of her grandpa's, but it wasn't long before they were cruising along....I'm not that fast and I knew I wouldn't be able to keep up. I was probably in the middle of the pack at the beginning of the race, but it didn't take long before I had been passed by what felt like every runner. It was a little dis-heartening to be at the tale end, but those encouragers along the route really helped keep my spirits up and kept me going and helping me want to finish. I don't remember what songs played on my i-device, I remember the RunKeeper app voice telling me how long I'd been running, but that's about it.

I know the first time I walked was just passed the 10 minute point of running, I started out stronger and faster than I normally would have, which I understand is a normal mistake...you just get caught up with all the other runners and get sucked in. I made sure that my walks lasted long enough for me to catch my breath, but not too long. I tried to make sure the walks only lasted for about 30 seconds and the majority of them did. It was the tail end of the race that I probably walked a little more than 30 seconds. I wanted to finish the race running.

My race results can be found here. My overall time was 51:03.8 which is an average pace of 16.28/mile. Now I have a standard to gauge myself against for future races.

My husband took some great video of the start of the race and me crossing the finish line. You can watch that video below.

Some pictures, taken by KnightLIGHT Photography are also below. For more pictures from the race, click here.

The start of the race. I'm in the purple just passed the guy
in front wearing his hat backwards. The thing to my left is
where I stretched at the end of the race.

Finishing my first 5K race. 51:03.8 (16:28/mile)

At the end of the race, just after my husband stopped recording, I said, "My feet are numb." It was like a pins and needles kind of numb...which started when I had about 0.6 miles left (I'm just going by what the volunteer said as I ran by). After stretching and walking around a bit, my calf muscles felt sore. But, after a shower back at the hotel, I felt much better and haven't really been in too much pain today. It's a little stressful on my right knee going up and down our basement stairs, but I'm sure it will be gone by my next run day, Tuesday. I'm taking two days off before I start running again.

I'd like to improve how long (number of minutes straight) I can run for, so instead of continuing with the Get Running app which is 2 more sessions of running 25 minutes straight, then 3 sessions of running 28 minutes and finally 3 sessions of 30 minutes running straight (the end of the 9-Week Couch to 5K program), I'm going to revert to running 20 minutes straight. I will do that for my next 3 runs and see where I am before deciding to move up to 25 minutes and then following the Get Running app again.

Below is me in my first race T. Looking forward to building a collection of race T's.

5K for Orphans Training: Week 7/Race Week!

This Week's Runs
25 min. runs

Walk: (6/19) Gorgeous morning for a run! Rain really cooled it off...now if only it would stay this nice. Today was another 25 min run. I took a 30 sec walk break in the last 10 min. No more runs until rac day - Saturday.
Average Pace: 17:33 minutes/mile
Mileage: 2.2 miles

RACE DAY!!!
Week 7, Run 1: (6/21) Great run! 51:28. Wanted to finish in 52 so I beat my goal! Woot! I ran a 5k! I walked a little more than I would have liked, but I did try to only walk for 30 seconds at a time...towards the end I walked a little longer, but I wanted to make sure I finished the race strong and running. For more about the race and race day, see "Post-Race Day Re-Cap".
Average Pace: 16.47 minutes/mile
Mileage: 3.24 miles

Taking two days of rest before running again. Next run will be Tuesday, then I'll get back to running 4 days/week. Rest Day: (6/22)
Rest Day: (6/23)

Next time I run I think I'll be working on running for longer periods of time. This week's runs are 25 minutes straight of running, but I think I might jump back a step and work on running 20 minutes straight, once I've mastered that, then I'll bump myself back up to 25 and then 30 minutes.

THIS WEEK'S PROGRESS
Total miles logged this week: 5.44 miles
Total miles logged YTD: 58.1 miles

5K for Orphans Training: Week 6

This week's runs:

1. 5 min. run, 3 min. walk, 8 min. run, 3 min. walk, 5 min. run
2. 10 min. run, walk 3 min., 10 min. run
3. 25 min. run

Week 6, Run 1: (6/14) Great run! Two 5 min runs, one 8 min run in between with 3 min walks between each run. About 3/4 of the way thru the 8 min I wanted to stop and walk when the song "don't give up" popped up on my playlist. I made it! In exactly one week I will be running my first 5K!
Average Pace: 17:58 minutes/mile
Mileage: 2.03 miles

Week 6, Run 2: (6/15) Great run! Driver's please pay attention to people In the crosswalk. Don't be liking at your phone or radio when you're coming up to a stop sign...watch for pedestrians! Okay, ff my soapbox. Beautiful breeze out there today. Two 10 min runs with 5 min walk between. Next 2 runs this week are 25 min straight...can't wait!

Average Pace: 17:44 minutes/mile
Mileage: 2.08 miles

Week 6, Run 3: (6/17) Great run! A little toasty out there, but the breeze and occasional raindrop helped. One more 25 min run before race day!

Average Pace: 17:24 minutes/mile
Mileage: 1.91 miles (Runkeeper app started late)

One more 25 minute run before Race Day!


THIS WEEK'S PROGRESS
Total miles logged this week: 6.02 miles
Total miles logged YTD: 52.7 miles

Runnning Tips for Newbies (like me)

I recently found out that a few family members are new runners as well. Its encouraging to see others running - even if its just hearing about it over the internet. So, I thought I'd share some of the things I've read online that I found helpful for being a new runner. I've included links (Source) to websites below the full quote as well as links to good articles for new runners. Hope you can get some helpful information from here, just as I did.

Staying Motivated
Write a motivational statement on a sticky note. Remind yourself each morning that, "Today is a great day to run!" and use this as positive reinforcement. Post the note prominently on your bathroom mirror or somewhere you are sure to see it daily.

Tell everyone what you are doing, why you are doing it, and how you are sticking to your plan. 

Keep a training log. A log helps to measure progress and serves as a reminder of how far you have come in the journey. Journal the weather; distance run; pace; how you felt before, during and after the run; and especially note any sore spots or aches.
Source 

You know where you want to go (your vision); what one thing can you do to move closer to it? Listen to your intuition; listen to your body. You have all the information you need. What one small thing can you change starting today? Write: "Step 1: _________" then check it off after one week of successful implementation. Then move on to "Step 2:_______."  As often as possible, journal about how your new habits make you feel, inside and out.
Source 

11 Tips for Newbie Runners
Breathing Tips for New Runners
When Is It Okay To Run Everyday?

Keep up the good work! You're doing great! Nothing can stop you!

5K for Orphans Training: Week 5

This weeks runs: 

1. three 5 min. runs with 3 min. of walking in between
2. two 8 min. runs with 5 min. of walking in between
3. running 20 minutes straight

Week 5, Run 1: (6/8) great run! Ran 15 min. total today. Next run will be 1 min. more than up to 20 min. straight by this week's runs end. 
Average Pace: 18:18 minutes/mile

Mileage: 1.88 miles

Walk: (6/9) Walked around the pond by work
Mileage: 1.02 miles

Week 5, Run 2: (6/11) Overslept on my regular run day, got home late cause I was hit by another car on my way home, so had to put this run off a day.
Great run! Ran 8 minutes straight...legs did not feel fatigued at the end. Halfway thru the second run I picked up the pace, and at the end of the run, when the app I use told me 1 more minute, I set my eyes on where I wanted to make it to and pushed myself to get there. Didn't make it by the time the run was over, but not too long after it. :) Next run 20 minutes straight. I'm going to rock my next run!
Average Pace:  17:49 minutes/mile
Mileage:  1.96 miles

Week 5, Run 3: (6/12) Great run! Actually ran for 22 min. cause I was having problems with my running apps. Durin that 22 I walked 2 times for 30 sec. and 2 times to walk across some crooked gravel (10 sec. Max, maybe). Feeling pretty good!
Average Pace: 17:47 minutes/mile
Mileage:  1.76 miles (something went wrong in my RunKeeper app and it missed recording part of my warm up time, so it was more mileage than this, but I'll just log what it tracked)

THIS WEEK'S PROGRESS
Total miles logged this week: 6.62 miles
Total miles logged YTD: 46.7 miles

5K for Orphans Training: Week 4

Week 4, Run 1: (5/31) Great run! Ran into a coyote as I was about to start my second set of runs, so I just walked back on the path I came down. Ran into him again around the corner. So stopped midrun to walk past him. He was after some geese. Quiet a morning of wildlife...saw lots of rabbits too.

Running 2 sets of 3 and 5 minutes.

Average Pace: 17:5 minutes/mile

Mileage: 1.92 miles

Felt great after today's run. Wasn't sore or stiff. I was kicking myself ,originally, for taking 3-days off, but I'm really glad I did. I'm not regretting it and it's not going to hold me back.

Exercise: (6/1) I didn't go for a walk, however, I did do crunches, squats, lunges and lifted hand weights.

I didn't sleep well Sunday night, so I opted to sleep instead of getting up to run. Then traffic was bad in my way home, and I always go grocery shopping...by the time I got home it was 7:15, so dinner and no run. I'll be up early tomorrow for sure to run.

Week 4, Run 2: (6/3) great run! Had to cut the last 5 min run in the am, ran out of time...next time up 10 min earlier and that should do it. Feel great starting the day with my run!
Average Pace: 17:27 minutes/mile

Mileage: 1.41 miles

Week 4, Run 3: (6/5) great run! The app I use didn't count my run from the other day (I forgot to mark it as complete). Figure it can't be bad to do one more day of this training. So tomorrow, to get back on track for my run days, I'll run one more of this week' straining.
Average Pace: 18:01 minutes/mile
Mileage: 1.97 miles

Week 4, Run 4: (6/5) Great run! Lots of runners out there this am. My pace is getting faster.
Average Pace: 18:01 minutes/mile
Mileage: 1.64 miles

Starting tomorrow the training starts to vary, I'll be moving up to three 5 min. runs with 3 min. of walking in between; then two 8 min. runs with 5 min. of walking in between; and last run for week 5 is running 20 minutes straight...can't wait to be there again! :)

THIS WEEK'S PROGRESS
Total miles logged this week: 6.94 miles
Total miles logged YTD: 40.1 miles

5K for Orphans Training: Week 3

Week 3, Run 1: (5/23) Great run! I ran for 3 minutes straight! The first run I doubted I could do it. Second run, I made it to the halfway point and was like, I should pick up the pace...so I did
Average Pace: 17:57 minutes/mile

Walk: (5/24) Great walk! Just working on building endurance for those runs..

Average Pace: 19:40 minutes/mile

Week 3, Run 2: (5/25) Great run! Didn't think I was going to get it in today. But I'm glad I did, even after an hour of playing frisbee in the park.
Average Pace: 17:57 minutes/mile

Walk: (5/26) Great walk! Getting toasty already.
Average Pace: 19:53 minutes/mile

Week 3, Run 3: (5/29) Feels great to be running again after a forced 3-day break.
Average Pace: 18:39 minutes/mile

So, as you can see, I had to take a break from running and missed one day. My left calf muscle was really stiff and sore. My husband, thankfully, massaged it out, but I still felt like I should rest a couple of days before continuing to run. Best to not risk injury before a race.

So, next week (or Saturday really), I move up to week 4: run 3 minutes, walk 1.5 minutes, run 5 minutes, walk 2.5 minutes (do this cycle 2 times) +5 minute warm up and cool down. 

Friday I will resume my walking regime to help build up my endurance and leg strength and to assist in the weight loss process. :)

THIS WEEK'S PROGRESS
Total miles logged this week: 7.21 miles
Total miles logged YTD: 33.1 miles

5K for Orphans Training: Week 2

Week 2, Run 1: Great run! Up to 1.5 min runs now. Going to make it to that 5k for sure, even if I'm the last to finish! :)
At run 5, I wasn't sure I could do the last 3 minutes of running....before I knew it, I was done.
Average Pace: 17.34 minutes/mile

Week 2, Run 2: Great run! Missed running at 6 am today cause I couldn't sleep last night, even after an exhausting 4 hour day of yard work. Didn't really want to run today, but I did! And I feel great and am glad I ran.
I set my eyes on a goal for my last run and made sure I pushed to make it, so when my run coach app told me 15 seconds left, I ran faster to reach that goal.
Average Pace: 17.10 minutes/mile

I implemented my walking on days that I don't run, I saw a difference in my pace in Run 2, which is the day after I implemented my walking plan.


Week 2, Run 3: Great run! A little warm out there, but at least there was a nice breeze. My left calf was hurting during my first run, I just slowed my pace and it went away. Also had a side cramp - don't usually get those.
Average Pace: 17.36 minutes/mile

Missed a walk last night because of the storms. Will pick those back up starting tomorrow. I really need to leave a pair of walking shoes at work so I can do it on my lunch hour.

So far so good! Loving the runs. Totally clears my head! Now if I could only get up early in the morning to do them so I don't have to do it in the evening heat. Here's hoping I can do that on Friday. :)

Next run (on Friday) will be 2x: Run 1.5 min., walk 1.5 min. Run 3 min., walk 3 min. (9 minutes of running - which is what I did this week).

THIS WEEK'S PROGRESS
Total miles logged this week: 6.19 miles
Total miles logged YTD: 24.73 miles

Total weight loss: 1 lb. 
(my weigh-in day is Friday, I will try to remember to update this then, otherwise, look for it in Week 3's post)

5K for Orphans Training: Week 1

So I thought it would be fun to track my training in my blog (maybe it will also help hold me accountable to doing my runs as scheduled). Since I signed up for the 5K for Orphans (on May 9), which takes place on Saturday, June 21 (for more details, click here), I have been sticking to my runs. I know I have 18 runs left before race day...as long as I stick to that schedule, I will be running for 25 minutes straight.

The first week of runs went well. The schedule I followed was: 5 minutes of warm up; 1 min. of running to 1.5 min. of walking (repeated 8 times), then 5 minutes to cool down. I did this for 4 days...usually its only for 3 days, but since I deleted the app from my phone and re-downloaded it, the schedule was blank and I had done 1 run already. I wasn't quite sure I was up to running 1.5 minutes, which is next.

So, Week 1 is complete. I ran for 8 minutes total, each day I ran. I lost 1 lb. this week, so that's a step in the right direction, as well as running every other day.

I decided in order to help build up my endurance, on my non-run days, I would go for at least a 1 mile walk. Today was the first day I implemented this plan.

THIS WEEK'S PROGRESS
Total miles this week: 7.9 miles
Total miles logged YTD: 18.54 miles

Total weight loss: 1 lb.

The Dreaded Number on the Scale

I'm sure we all have a number that we hope to NEVER see on the scale. I have mine and I've exceeded it by almost 10 lbs. I come home from work, eat dinner, then plop on the couch with a book or in front of the TV. Then I wonder why do I keep gaining weight. Why aren't I losing it? I'm counting my calories and I've created that deficit of 3,500 calories per week (500 calories/day) to lose 1 lb./week, but I'm not seeing the results on the scale.

Two years ago I was running 30 minutes straight, then the weather got cold...I stopped running, not just outside, but completely. The 10 lbs. I lost since starting running in 2012, I put back on plus some extra. Last year, 2013, I tried getting back into running and failed. Why did I fail? I didn't make the time, I didn't set a goal, I didn't sign up for a 5K (something I've been saying I'm going to do and you can find evidence somewhere on this blog).

Recently on Facebook I've had friends posting things that have convicted me of my lack of running.

"I didn't have time" actually means, "it wasn't important enough."
-Seth Godin

Another friend put as his status: "Protip - prioritize your health before $/career. Seems so obvious but I see too few do so."

In addition to these comments, neither of which were directed at me, I've been reading a devotion from YouVersion titled, "God's Prescription for a Healthy Life"...I am on Day 10. Here is the description of the plan: "God wants you to get healthy in 2014! In this series of messages, Pastor Rick shares how to change your life - your health, the way you think, the goals you set, and the way you treat others - so that you can accomplish God's purpose for you and bring glory to him this year."

I also subscribed to Runner's World this year. I thought that might help motivate me and get me back into running.

I have run a couple of times this year, made it to week 2 at the end of March/beginning of April, then got busy and didn't make time for my runs. Today, I ran week 1 again. By June 21 I should be running 25 minutes straight.

Why do I mention June 21? Because that's the date of my first-ever 5K. My niece and her family are helping run the 5K and my great niece if most likely running this as her first 5K as well. If you want to learn more about this 5K, go here.

Now that I have a race to run, I should be sticking to my plan. So, thanks, Emily, for asking if I'd be able to run that race. Made me sign up and make it my first race. :)

So, to those negative thoughts I say, "Go away! Leave me alone! I'm doing this and you're not going to stop me!" To those times I'm going to mess up or miss a run, I'm not going to beat myself up about it, I'm just going to say "Oh well, tomorrow is a new day" and I'm going to start again. I'm not going to get discouraged and I'm not going to let that hold me back. I'm running this 5K and I'm going to run it as strong as I can!

To that dreaded number I see on the scale, soon you will be long gone and never seen again.